не съм сигурен дали точно тук трябва да побликувам тази статийка, но пък "тайната на майер" е заключена.
ето какво намерих. мисля че е доста старичко, понеже се побликувано 2007.
идеята ми е, че по някакъв начин съвпада със статията на Ейбъл Морлей.
Извинявам се за английския. предполагам че довечера ще мога да побликувам превод, ако някой е заинтересован. тук има доста конкретни данни. Мисля че може да е интересно.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:08 am
I have found a letter from a man named Ted Zettergren,who someone has mentioned as being the first person to succesfully replicate Stan's work.From everything I have read and learned,it all adds up to me.Everything I read about LC,XC and XL works just like Stan says.Check out the link and research Inductance Capacitance(LC), Indutance reactance(XL), and Capactive Reactance(XC).Then you will start to uderstand how it all comes together to work.Just how Stan says it does.
Don
http://groups.google.de/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/msg/86420899b49ac4dc?q=author:Ted+author:Zettergren&start=10&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&rnum=15 --------------
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:41 am Post subject:
I believe Ted Zettergren was laid to rest in 2003 but there were more than him that have duplicated the technology.
I read a post from Tad Johnson who made personal contact with Stan through an un-named intermediary. Tad claims to have duplicated the tech as well and even told the reader how to do it to. Tad mentions Ted and another person that has duplicated the tech.
I am not sure where I got a copy of the post from; but I think it was Patrick Kelly's site. No matter; I have pasted a copy below for anyone with an interest.
Hope it helps.
Ron Knight
Tad Johnson <h2opowered@ ...> wrote:
For those of you who were not here, or have not watched the Keelynet boards and such I will
revamp my entire history of Meyer experiments.
In 1996 I was an amateur electronics hobbyist. I had been interested in electrolysis and
hydrogen study for many years prior, but this year I was watching the sci.hydrogen news group
to become more educated on hydrogen in general. During that year I met a man who was good
friends with Stanley Meyer and regularly went to visit him in Ohio. John lived here in
California, and had also invested some money in the Water Fuel cell project of Meyers'. I
became friends with this man and became more interested in the Stanley Meyer system. As I
became more adept at electronic design and troubleshooting I began to want to try and duplicate
the Stanley Meyer process of breaking water with high voltage at resonance.
During that year and onward a couple years I was able to ask John questions which he would
then ask Stanley, and would then feed the answer back to me. You see, Stan was not willing to
just talk to anyone about the process let alone give away any secrets of the process that were not
mentioned already in the patents. So I had to ask these questions through John who was good
friends with Stanley.
My first few circuits worked but the cell would not make any hydrogen, especially under the
conditions that Stanley and his patents said they would. The problem is that I would tune the
cell like he said and yet no gas would be produced. It took three years of tinkering to finally
figure out what I was doing wrong, and it was a big blunder. The answer to what I was doing
wrong came to me through the sci.hydrogen group by a man who lived in Sweden and had
already duplicated the Meyer experiments based on his patents. His name was Ted Zettergren,
and he was an inventor who helped other inventors file patents and market products. He posted
on exactly what he did and how the system worked. To my knowledge he was one of the first of
three people who duplicated the Meyer experiments successfully.
After Stan was killed I had no information other than Ted's to go by, but it was all I needed, or
anyone else needs to duplicate the Meyers' process.
The process is achieved by the following:
1. Pulsing circuit or power supply capable of producing 600+ Volts @ 20Khz+ @ 100uA+. My
system was a simple, off the shelf inverter with an input of 12VDC and an output of 1200VAC
@ 20Khz @ 1mA. I then took this circuit and modified the circuit to run at 42.5-43.0Khz. This
was an off-the- shelf inverter sold by Fry's electronics. It is a neon power supply with a very
small bobbin core transformer. Anyone can buy this circuit or one just like it and modify it to
run within the specs I gave you. The hard part is obtaining resonance which takes years of
electronics expertise to do.
2. A small electrolysis cell with the ability to vary distance between conductors.
3. 2 - Chokes, one adjustable, one fixed.
4. One high voltage diode to go in-line with the cathode of the power supply output.
5. Inductance Meter, Capacitance meter, frequency counter/Oscilloscope, and high voltage
probe.
The key to the Meyer process is resonance, and without resonance the system produces no gas.
At 12 watts you see why no gas is produced without resonance. This is a standard LC resonant
circuit in which you MUST (!) match Capacitive reactance with Inductive reactance. This then
creates an LC resonant circuit in which the two legs of the power supply match in frequency
exactly. A Ham calc make the calculation of resonance easy once you know the capacitance of
the cell and the frequency you are driving it at. Once you have your inductance calculated you
then buy the proper chokes that fall within the inductance range needed. The adjustable one
needs (obviously) to be tunable within a small range, so that when the cell temperature changes
and causes the capacitance of the cell to change, then the inductance can also be changed to
keep the cell in resonance. If your cell has the ability to vary distance between conductors, then
you simply change the distance and thus change the capacitance of the cell rather than changing
the inductance. You must vary one or the other though. I have found since then that the
capacitance of the cell can be changed and works just as well as the inductors being adjusted.
You don't use ANY electrolyte, you don't want ANY amperage at all, only voltage @
resonance. REPEAT, YOU DON'T NEED ANY CURRENT FLOW, ONLY VOLTAGE!
What I found frustrating is that the cell temperature would change and the system would stop
making gas. In order to keep the system making gas you constantly have to keep the cell in
resonance, and thus you really need the system to be controlled by a processor, that constantly
checks frequency on both legs and then adjusts inductance to keep the cell in resonance. This is
why Stanley move to the other patents where the spark plus type of electrolysis chamber was
used instead of a large cell. +
With the cell running at 1200Volts @ 1mA @ 42.8Khz I found I could make 200LP/H of gas.
Do the math and you will find that this is impossible given our current understanding of
electrolysis. If you scale this equation up you will find that you can make over 20,000LP/H of
gas for 1200Watts. This is easily enough to run most any Internal combustion engine. The
only problem has been keeping the cell in tune. An alternator will easily produce 3000 watts of
power, so this is easily enough to power the car on this system alone. This is how the
Volkswagen Buggy was running around on water only. The car has to wait a minute or two
before he stored enough gas to run the car, then once it was started and running it would make
enough gas to run the car at up to 60MPH. I never saw this car run personally, but I have two
people that went to two showings and both said it worked and they verified there was no
gasoline on board.
3 Years ago I sent Stefan and others this experimental data and never heard back form anyone,
nor did anyone ever repeat my experiment. To this date I know of only Ted, Me, and one other
person who has duplicated this experiment and done so successfully. The third person is a PHD
on the east coast of the U.S. who is in contact with Stanley's widow.
Stanley's brother now takes care of all water fuel cell business and claims he will start it up
again and make sure it makes it to market this time. But I have not heard from them in years
now. Stefan easily has the electronics experience to duplicate this process and also solve the
issue of keeping the cell in resonance. I probably do as well at this point but I am not going to
do it alone. It takes a lot of electronics expertise and hard work to solve this problem of cell
tuning.
Whew, my fingers are tired.......
Tad"
Ron Knight
